Byter Kara sent me an email:
Re Byter Charles and the Master's Apprentices
Oh my goodness Otto - are you Aussies at it again?!
Your list of bands that you suggest you and Charles chat about on Trivia night is followed by the words While we’re talking things Australian . . . has Ray Columbus become another 'honorary' Australian along the lines of the Pavlova?
Ray Columbus was almost the only name (The Easy Beats was the other) I recognized in the line-up so I thought I would make a cheeky comment.
To be honest I don't really care (I'm not even a real kiwi) especially when it comes to pavlova; as long as there is plenty of whipped-cream and no passionfruit-pulp anywhere near it and I get to indulge now and then, I don't care who claims its origin.
I must thank you indirectly as I've just been enjoying some blasts from the past - Mungo Jerry, Lobo, Terry Jacks, and others via you tube - never mind that I wasn't much more than ten years old when the songs were hits! All great stuff and all liked by my young teen sons - I've raised them well on a wide range of music from The Kinks, Manfred Mann, early Bowie and Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Gene Vincent, Van Morrison, The Doors . .
Okay, I’ll give you that one, Kara, Ray Columbus and the Invaders were Kiwis. Pavlova originated in NZ, as did a lot of others that we regard as Aussies: Phar Lap, Split Enz, Crowded House (at least in part), Keith Urban, John Clarke, Dragon. . . The practice seems to be that if they are successful and they have a connection with Oz, we claim them as ours. Russell Crowe was born in NZ but we'll leave him for you.
Some quotes about New Zealand:
"A country of inveterate, backwoods, thick-headed, egotistic philistines"
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 1909
"I believe we were all glad to leave New Zealand. It is not a pleasant place. Amongst the natives there is absent that charming simplicity .... and the greater part of the English are the very refuse of society."
Charles Darwin 1860
"If it would not look too much like showing off, I would tell the reader where New Zealand is."
Mark Twain 1897